Hermes Workshop Log File

Session Start: Sat Sep 23 19:05:08 2000
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<sor--> hiya
<Hermes`> hi soren
<Hermes`> how are you tonight?
<sor--> all fine
<sor--> I had a beautiful dream this afternoon
<Hermes`> nice,
<sor--> is amazing how a dream can change your day
<sor--> I was hugging a girl ..and the emotion I felt was very clear and strong
<sor--> maybe that part of the dream happened in astral plane(?)
<Hermes`> oh yes, dreams can have not only a psychological effect but also a chemical one on the body
<Hermes`> if emotions were involved then sure
<sor--> this time I felt the difference..
<Hermes`> yes once you start having various dreams on the different planes you can feel the difference in them.
<Hermes`> the energies in the various planes bring out certain energies from within the self.
<Hermes`> the astral plane is often considered the darkest of the planes but that mainly is because humans (as a whole) have a great deal of trouble controlling their emotions....
<Hermes`> so this constant lack of control of the emotional element brings the astral plane down in a sense.
<sor--> ii see..
<Hermes`> but you can have some great dreams on the astral plane.
<sor--> emotions are only humans? archangel have emotions and know how to control them?
<Hermes`> there are some beings that have less emotions than humans do, but all beings possess some kind of emotional component.
<Hermes`> one of the things that human kind wanted to explore was the depth of emotions so while we are here the emotional element is brought to the surface.
<sor--> another question..
<Hermes`> sure
<sor--> how to deal with the past?
<sor--> thinking always about it is bad
<sor--> because I want to live in the present
<sor--> but we are what we are thanks to our experiences..
<sor--> lets not speak about past lives eh:)the current past is enough for me
<Hermes`> hehe I agree
<Hermes`> okay, the past is important in the lessons it teaches you...
<Hermes`> it becomes a crutch when you constantly dwell in the past or keep reexamining something you have already examined.
<Hermes`> sometimes..
<Hermes`> you dwell in the past so often that it is a habit.
<Hermes`> then it becomes harder to stop doing it.
<Hermes`> but you must
<Hermes`> you must break the hold the past has on your present.
<Hermes`> when you find yourself drifting back to the past (espeically to a painful one), gently pull your mind from it and focus on the present.
<sor--> yes, I'm thinking about good is living now
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<sor--> good exercise, I'll try it
<Hermes`> well at times you may have to be forceful
<Hermes`> and you will have to fight the urge to feel those past emotions and feelings.
<Hermes`> often we get used to invoking feelings in this way, and it becomes like a narcotic.
<sor--> yes, also for good experiences
<sor--> we keep saying, maybe with a loved one
<sor--> remember how good we were 1 year ago
<sor--> but is stupid indeed
<sor--> because we're living the past feelings, not now
<Hermes`> exactly
<Hermes`> and this holds us there and prevents us from moving forward.
<sor--> I know those are thinks u always speak about but I'm living them
<Hermes`> well that is the best way to learn
<sor--> is like my mind caught everything in past years and now it releasing back them
<sor--> living them, without thinking about them
<Hermes`> what you can do is learn from the past what it wants to teach you, then ask that past to go away.
<Hermes`> you can command things like memories and such
<Hermes`> they will listen to you.
<Hermes`> you can just say "I command you to go away!"
<Hermes`> or...
<Hermes`> "I understand the lesson you are trying to teach me, now you must leave!"
<sor--> and they'll disappear.. I'm in urge to try them
<sor--> them=it
<sor--> btw is most difficult the recent past
<sor--> because, speaking of me, I change some habits, things that I thought were good
<Hermes`> sorry I had a phone call
<sor--> np
<Hermes`> well naturally the closer the past is the harder it is to settle
<sor--> from what I read from logs.. intuition is like passive RC?
<Hermes`> in a sense it is, yes that would be a good way to put it
<Hermes`> intuition is an echo of the reality that you are creating.
<Hermes`> it is viewed as intuition because you seem unaware of this creation.
<Hermes`> however eventually, you can eliminate all intuition because you will be fully conscious of just what you are reality creating all the time.
<sor--> I see..
<sor--> I always had a lot of intuition
<Hermes`> it is a good thing intuition
<Hermes`> but eventually you won't need it
<sor--> another question.. how to reach the vast sea?
<Hermes`> well that is like a stopping off point
<Hermes`> you can't actually stay there, but you can become aware of yourself as you move from conscious to a dream.
<sor--> better formula to be aware
<sor--> in fact
<Hermes`> the vast sea is that point where you start to hear and see things as you are drifting off to sleep.
<sor--> like when u fall asleep in front of TV and sometimes u wakeup
<sor--> dormiveglia in Italian:)
<Hermes`> yea and for a time it seems like the TV and your dreams are all one.
<sor--> eventually we can OBE from vast sea?
<sor--> I always thought about that state like a trance
<Hermes`> well I suppose you can, but I have never been successful with doing that.
<Hermes`> I just use the state as a good place to hover for self-healing
<Hermes`> and sometimes to communicate with my subconscious mind
<sor--> how?
<sor--> ahh another question ..we keep the subconscious trough all lives ?or is just from this life?
<Hermes`> well first you have to try to stay in the center of this twilight state. So you have to practice that. If you go too far on one side you start dreaming, not enough and you wake up then....
<Hermes`> then you send messages to your subconscious mind, ask it stuff, or tell it things you want to change.
<Hermes`> you can also talk to the body consciousness and find out why it is sick..
<Hermes`> you may get words back or images or feelings,
<Hermes`> depending on the communication.
<sor--> cool.. never tried, also if I wanted to try some experiments
<Hermes`> the subconscious mind is part of your consciousness for this life...
<Hermes`> it is a program, like DOS is for Windows, that runs in the background...
<Hermes`> you program this part of your mind over long-term with the things you say and do on a regular basis.
<Hermes`> you don't need your subconscious mind when you are out of the body or after death.
<Hermes`> it just becomes part of your consciousness at that point.
<sor--> of course the subconscious have RC power..
<Hermes`> yes of course, otherwise there would be no point in having it.
<Hermes`> the subconscious mind takes control of the regular dreary part of your reality...
<Hermes`> it does this to free up your conscious mind to create other things.
<Hermes`> the problem comes into play when you have stuff programmed in that subconscious mind that is not good reality creating.
<Hermes`> here it must be eliminated...
<Hermes`> I have found self-hypnosis, mantras and programming within the vast sea to be great tools to change this program.
<Hermes`> in fact, instead of letting my mind wander, I use mantras these days.
<Hermes`> mind wandering is very damaging as you do not know what data you are sending to the subconscious mind.
<Hermes`> you could do that as well...
<Hermes`> when you find yourself wandering in the past, start up a mantra...
<Hermes`> say things over and over like: "I am happy". I am alive, I am wealthy, I am loved
<sor--> mantra is to say the vocals?
<sor--> like.. AAA.. etc..
<Hermes`> yea you say it over and over in your mind
<Hermes`> not aloud
<Hermes`> just silently,
<sor--> aha, ok
<sor--> that keep the mind concentrated?
<Hermes`> yes it will
<Hermes`> and out of trouble
<Hermes`> "So Hum" is another one you can say.
<Hermes`> that one is Indian and it means something like, I am the breath of God.
<sor--> great
<sor--> OM too is a mantra, right?
<Hermes`> yes that on is too
<Hermes`> the om mantra I find is good for relaxing you, but it does not do much to reprogram the subconscious mind
<sor--> you know about other interesting mantras?
<Hermes`> "I am the Light!"
<Hermes`> 'I am life! I am resurrection"
<Hermes`> the second one you say together in one mantra
<Hermes`> I am life, followed by I am resurrection
<Hermes`> that one transforms the dark areas of your consciousness into the light
<Hermes`> the I am the Light is good for brightening your energy field
<sor--> great
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<sor--> yeah noticed now
<sor--> hermes, what keep through all our lives?
<sor--> mind, spirit?
<Hermes`> your spirit is the part of you that survives death...
<Hermes`> it is made up of energy and consciousness
<Hermes`> the person you see in your dreams and in OBE's is the part of you that is free of the human mind.
<Hermes`> it is the person you are when you no longer have a body.
<sor--> I see, sometimes I got a bit confused:)
<Hermes`> well it is natural
<Hermes`> with the mind and consciousness so closely linked you wonder who you are without the mind.
<Hermes`> in fact it is so hard to imagine yourself without this mind.
<sor--> I'm seeking who am I..
<Hermes`> ah and that brings me to another mantra to help with that
<Hermes`> "I am that I am"
<sor--> you know when u are with persons we change
<Hermes`> yes, but that does not have to be
<Hermes`> you can eliminate that completely
<Hermes`> so that you are who you are, whoever you are with
<Hermes`> "I am that I am!"
<sor--> yes, but with so many radiate comportments
<sor--> is difficult to discover who am I.. also because if I don't know who am I how can be me?:)
<Hermes`> hehehe
<Hermes`> that is a good one
<sor--> existential questions:)
<Hermes`> that "I am that I am" can help allot with unifying your many selves
<Hermes`> what you can do is try to take the best of who you and merge them all together.
<Hermes`> and of course discard those aspects of yourself that you do not like.
<Hermes`> then
<Hermes`> you have to be firm in who you are, so that you can be who you are no matter who you are around..
<Hermes`> we change who we are when we are around certain people because we believe that they would not accept us any other way...
<Hermes`> this of course is not true, they will accept you any way you want to present yourself to them.
<Hermes`> and if they can't... well then they really were not good friends or people to be around.
<sor--> yeah I agree
<sor--> and when we're out of body? all selves are united?
<Hermes`> well not exactly
<Hermes`> but you are more unified there
<Hermes`> you will find when you are out of the body that there are aspects of yourself there that are not in the physical self, and the other way around...
<Hermes`> again you must unify these two people into one.
<Hermes`> take the best of both and bring them to each other.
<Hermes`> I like to do this one aspect at a time.
<sor--> aspects.. like?
<Hermes`> well for example, in the physical you are timid but in the nonphysical you are sturdy.
<Hermes`> so you bring the sturdy more forward part of yourself into the physical plane
<Hermes`> you can use the vast sea to program this up, or some mantras said over and over again.
<Hermes`> sometimes you may find that you like an aspect of yourself in the physical but you lack it in the nonphysical..
<Hermes`> so now you must do the reverse...
<Hermes`> for this procedure I like to use a mantra as I go off to sleep to carry that aspect into the nonphysical self...
<Hermes`> so I'll say something like "I am strong" over and over again as I drift off to sleep.
<Hermes`> in time you can completely redesign yourself with the best of all of you.
<sor--> great I'm working on it
<sor--> was a good chat, tnx:)
<sor--> now I leave,3.30am here:)
<Hermes`> yes it was, thanks for being here.
<sor--> going to recite some mantras
<Hermes`> okay see you later.
<Hermes`> I'll post this chat, it can help other people.
<sor--> see u!
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